Season 9 Episode 12: Zipper Dick

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The Dateable podcast is an insider's look into modern dating that the Huffington post calls one of the top ten podcast about love and sex. On each episode, we'll talk to real daters about. From sex parties to sex droughts, date fails a diaper fetishes and first moves to first loves. I'm your host Yue Xu, former dating coach turned dating sociologists. You also hear from my co host and producer Julie Krafchick as we explored this crazy dateable world. Hey everyone welcome to another episode of dateable a show all about modern dating when we started this podcast three and half years ago. What we did was tell funny dating stories? Not that's what our show is going to be about. And then we sort of evolved into a mixture of stories as well as experts and deep dives and theoretic journey stations. Journeys of finding yourselves but then we just wanted a really good dating story so we do a little crowd sourcing sourcing on facebook and ask people to tell us their best funniest quirkiest dating stories on our show. And that's how we found Elizabeth Ed. WHO's here to tell us her funny dating story she is originally from Colorado? She's been in San Francisco for thirteen years. She's thirty nine years old and currently in a relationship. Tell us about this. This funny date exhort Okay so this was a date that I went on about seven years ago. It was an okay. Cupid date you know this was before tender bumble all of that so it was pretty active on okay. Cupid it was a first date. We met at a teahouse in the Castro. No I believe Samovar which is now closed down really rowdy. A T bar. Yeah it was a think good late afternoon. Her noon date. No alcohol involved is really mellow and we had decent conversation and then we ended up going to his place which was just block away from the tea house so that he suggested he house. Yes okay you like big code batches place lane was going to happen or what we not really. I mean I don't know I guess I'm very trusting person that way and also I'm an interior designer and I like seeing different spaces. We're at his place and I think ususally showing me some visits dramatic you know really lucky. And then somehow we ended up kissing and and so we're making out a little bit in honestly I wasn't I wasn't that into it. Kissing is very important to me and I really need to feel that connection and it just I. I wasn't fully feeling it so and it was a very all we were doing was kissing. There wasn't even a groping going on. We're fully clothes. Were okay with the kissing thing. I was okay it was a kissing. I mean you know. It's a little fast. We'd only known each other for not even two hours. It wasn't a t they don't remember. You know. I think I just put out. I've got kissing. Lives back to his house Eh. She is good. I know I guess. They think something's given so yeah I wasn't really got got into it and in my mind I was like I'm going to kind of come up with an exit strategy here because I'm just not fully feeling I was ready to call it and before four could even vocalise anything. He's kind of shifting around and has pained look on his face and he kinda like jolts jolts and I and I said what what's wrong. What happened is not something you want to see? When you're in the middle of the makes no I mean it was just very confusing so I asked him what Happened and he snapped at me. What do you think happened? I was like lots rude. I really don't know I mean he said my penis. This is stuck in my zipper. Oh I you bit his tongue. Some his pants was stuck. His speed has got stuck in his zipper. And here I am. I don't understand what's happening. How did this happen? I'm thinking all of this. You know in my mind. I'm like great. I'm getting ready to make my exit strategy. And he's got a whole other. Exit Strategy Plan Win Win horribly wrong. Wait so how did that even happen. Good question you weren't grow grow. No we fully close. There was no genital touching. Not even I didn't even think he touched my boobs. Nothing like it was very his penis. Genus got stuck and so he was probably a rack of assuming was he like unbuttoned zippy. Ms Suming I'm I think what what was happening was he must've been unzipping to either present through the first shift things around. Somehow I don't end in. Maybe the Zipper got stuck any jerk zipper and I don't know so here he is.

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I mean he was really stuck like boxers or his with the shaft. Part of the shaft of his penis was stuck on. That sounds good handful. Bird yeah yeah. He was clearly quite. He was in a lot of pain. So you saw. Aw his psychic. Yeah you see the skin and God so. He was very calm after initially snapping snapping at me. He was pretty calm and so was I like. I'm pretty good in crisis situations. You know if I count as a crisis on his anyway I I was like okay. I can't I can't leave him like this. I mean it was really stuck like he would have had to go to the ER like no question. That'd be a really. Do she move. Yeah I know we'll it's also Dushi. Move to try to take your dick out on. The first date agreed read. I'm a kind person and I just. I couldn't leave him so I was like okay. Look I'm also. I'm pretty good at problem solving and then told Oldham I said look I used to work in upholstery shop and very good with scissors. This is a part of the story. Where guys freak out when I when I say see this when I bring up scissors but I said what needs to happen is we need to cut the Zipper from below and release Zipper? I said if you have scissors others. I'm pretty sure that I can cut the Zipper in a way where I can even salvager jeans watts lord youth thinking of this problem salt can get out of here. Okay let's get the dogs free willy and the links. Let's I can go literally free willy. So he let me do it. He found scissors. And so he's laying down on and I think on his sofa and I'm just like in their faces right in his Karachi. No delicate still eh totally plaza. I'm sure he's very flaccid on a I don't know I don't remember but I mean you know stuck in there so it's probably holes await US foreskin our skin that's usually it was like shy of the shot. Okay right yeah. How does the shot he gets like trying to visualize how the I I know? Okay yes it'd be it. Yeah it was definitely bleeding. Sorry I couldn't see that at the time you know. So it'd be released at your head was like basically. Yeah I mean I was. I was really in there. I mean I had do. I have to get very close to see what I was doing. You know and I really was trying to save his to wasn't a hack job. I'm very good with. There is lucky he had the dean of this one. I would not have wanted a guy would not want mean. They're his dick with scissors. Yeah I mean commits it took a Lotta trust on his end and but I mean seriously he would've had to go to the car and that would have been quite expensive and mortifying for him right eight. I can too painful I would imagine I mean I think they probably would have done the same thing but he would have to hold his Dick until the truth route time. Yeah he would have had way. I don't even know what they I had to take a taxi. I don't know it would have been whole production taxing larvae. I mean yes it's an. I'm sure taxi drivers weirder thing he probably GonNa just covered up with who newly luckily reduction anyway and get to that walk you marry now. That's my man. He actually is a once. It was all done he was he was bleeding. I mean not profusely or anything but there was you know when you pinch your skin. Yeah and it was pinched in error pretty good and so of course it was like it was red and it was bleeding bruce looking and so you release the Zipper so psychotic zipper out from the low rating. The two parts. Okay got it okay. So we didn't have to deal with the actual zipper pull because once once you release Zipper it can release from the top or the bottom once. You've got it. Cut Out just really lucky. This habit was someone that actually knew what they were doing. Because this is very similar to if I I've had this happen zipper stuck it like the flap of the fabric in the zipper right. But the when I tend to always do is just keep yanking 'cause I keep thinking like I can release a fabric that way. Hey I'm guessing that's probably what happened to him he had stuck in.

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He just kept me. I don't know if you'd want to Yank it. I mean I don't know yeah and unfortunately actually. We didn't really get a good debriefing because it was just such you know intense but he actually did try to kind of continue kissing me after that. What yeah the only? I wasn't expecting that. Were you just like I need to get the house you care. I is going to go now once. I once so help them out. I you know I was there for another few minutes because it was like decompressing of an intense situation as you saw his pinas us once it was released. Yeah and that was your first interview. Yeah Let al two hours you got. That was intrigued. View full thing you know. Yeah Yeah I mean. It wasn't enough to impress me into you know I didn't. I didn't want to stay. So what happened after because keep so. Oh we never saw each other spoke again and then honestly I'd Kinda forgotten about it and then a few years later I was at a singles comedy nights and Dan. The invited three people to get up during intermission to talk about An Awkward Sexual Humor. I've got a story and I got up and told the story. That's the first time I'd really told it. In the first time I definitely told it in front of an audience and I won the fifty dollar gift card. All the if if he was he was hiding pretty well but last fall I was at an event and I. We saw a friend of mine there and I was. I went up to her to say goodbye because we chatted earlier in the night. And this is my friend and it was him and and that's the first time I'd seen him since. This happened seven or so years ago. And you know when you see someone you hadn't seen in a long time you're like my brain was like you know this person. Yeah so I was getting ready to say oh we I know you and then hit me how I knew him and I was like Oh nice to meet you. Yeah I don't know I was on my way out because I had to lift on the way and I mean I imagine he would remember me. It's it's like. I have a feeling experiences pretty well. Ingrained in yeah. I'm pretty sure he remembers so. I think we both just played it off like we didn't how could be very awkward story. And what do I what did I say seven years later. Has Your Pena's doing fully recover. AH THOSE GENES THAT I. I really am curious about the jeans. They've made it. He could've taken them to seamstress to you. You know get them. I really did do good enough job. Where Yeah Yeah music saved? The story is over. Yeah A- and I'm surprised. We Got Zipper Dick on the phone. Now I know how the region because it turns out we have mutual friends. But no no I haven't I haven't reached out to. Wow so this I guess not really happened to me but I got my dress. Wants stuck in my jacket so any like personal parts right so very different story but it was like with this guy that I was like sleeping with. We were boyfriend girlfriend but Lake Lake sleeping together and I was trying to get my jacket off and it got stuck. I had like a leafy dress so got stuck in. He had taken to exacto knife in my cut around it and I remember like I was like a little tipsy too. I was terrified because I'm like. Does he know what he's doing. He's like coming at me with a tonight so like I can't even imagine what this guy was feeling when it's like down there like I was like you know there was a lot of cloth to work with and stuff I was more concerned like my dress was gonna it'd be ruined and he did ruined my dress but of course there's no trust me. This is a new business idea for you body. I took your fabric exactly the and your parts. You can save your drought that very interesting. I just like hang out at bars in the bathrooms and help women with their clothes. You'll do calling for you have really is. I'm more concerned about how he got his desk stuck in the Zipper. I think I like we talked about it. But that's still a mystery to me because you guys weren't groping like no touching of that part like what was his end goal there shoeless obviously. Don't have him here. You're his inner interest thoughts but like what I would assume that he was trying to make shit happen Yes avalon. There's no way his dick was so big that I I became hard and snuck.

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Its way into into the Zipper. Least guys get turned on all the time. I'm by kissing girls. Don't have this happen so definitely something. Going on. Zipper came into play. This is just really odd because you guys went to tea. I wasn't even intoxicated. I the first day. Very preaching effort. Steve where I wasn't even fully feeling. That's what boggles my mind. How could we have had had such different experiences in that moment? I think I'm going to go home. And he's like let's take it out. You would be surprised. I think from what we've talked to enough people but the people of very different perception fascinating. I don't I've been there before too. I'm like I'm on a date and I'm like this clearly isn't going well and then you get the tax. It's such degree Thailand. You're like wait. Why are we all the same date? I thought this was obvious but people just interpret things differently. Say you being like down to go to your apartment Mattru. Yeah or his lash ditch effort to get you to stay. Maybe he thinks he has a really beautiful deck. Oh you know thought before you go would it give it. Looks like May I present you with. I didn't know I was ready to go either. You guys how I met your mother fans. I've I've the episode. There was this episode that was called the naked man and they came back in time. This guy basically was like look. I know I'm not a tad like I know I'm like a five bass I don't have money. Don't have good. lucks go without on these women that are way out of my Lee and then my move at the end. There's just a stripped down naked in they typically are just like why not. Maybe this guy is just like you know what this is my move and I throw it out there. I see what happens. Yeah maybe they could be well. He got his punishment. So I'm just like putting myself in his shoes for a sec and he's probably replayed this moment Over over his head could he have done differently while other then Dick to show you okay so I get my Dick Stuck in Zipper and it's is kind of embarrassing. What do I do at this point? What would you do you know? That's that's good question like I said we were both very calm. Yeah I'll give him nine. I feel like I would have to explain blame myself. Yeah I think somehow that explanation didn't have somehow we skipped over that like. How did this happen in the first? In the moment when you're acres stock for your part like let me think of this lying next. A Duke is stuck in my zipper. Yeah no I mean I think he was. He was calm but he clearly was in pain and I think he was probably a little panicked. Yeah my thought would be. What could he have done before? It even got to the point of Zipper right because what's in Zipper stock. Yeah also be very grateful for you being there. Say let me make it up to you. Let me take take you out to dinner saying. Oh yeah there was like that I mean he must have thanked me I I guess I don't really recall but like I said I mean he was trying to start things up again. All right you know five minutes later that he's probably still bleeding with the mission. Did he ever techs you. No no we never message again. Not a word. That's why I was happy when I won that. Fifty Dollar Isis hard earned that gift card. uh-huh money yeah. Yeah like that is fascinating like I think bit does deserve like let me treat you the alike you. Yeah Yeah like there was like that lack of grateful. I would think easier. Maybe in retrospect he could like Oh. I should have done this but we'll be in the moment there was like why would say shame but it sounds like he was just going for. It wasn't even shame I don't know I thought you'd be mortified. But it sounds like he's like okay. It's all good. No 'cause I yeah yeah I could see him not wake taking you out for dinner like apologizing or suddenly a few just mortified. He's like Oh my waiting. Can this be over like leave it. It doesn't sound like he was that he wanted to go like I. I had to go making sure everything was good. Yeah I like like my work is like here's my invoice and when I told this story at that singles name I forgot. It was a singles night and I was at the end in all these guys were crowding around me and I'm an introvert. I don't really like talking to people that much and I was like leave me alone. I'm like why are these people talking to me and I was like. Oh yeah is a singles night and now they know their dick is safe with me because I just told this story and brings up an interesting point too of like we actually really had this another guest tell a story Heidi from weeding them out and he was season five. I WANNA say or six. It was a few seasons ago and she had some a story happened to her world like a guy passed out at a movie theater and she kind of had to take care of him and was one of those awkward things like she barely knew him right.

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And this is the same situation situation with you. It's like in one side. You can't control for this stuff but then on the other side it's like you're basically with a stranger at this point. Yeah you could have just laughed could could have. I think a lot of women probably would have. I don't know if I would have. I probably would call for backup. Yeah Yeah I mean I think think I would have been hesitant to like get in there. Because I wouldn't have wanted to like cut him or something worse like I wouldn't have wanted to make the situation worse than it already was. Yeah I mean at the very least I mean it would be accompanying him to the ER examine cab or even saw. That is a lot for someone that you like you literally. What really like two hours to go the Er like I think there is this one side of like yes just human courtesy indecency But then there's another side of you don't really Oh this person through. I mean he probably had some friends he could have called. He would have been highly embarrassed but I imagine someone would have stepped up like if if compact ditched him kind of a similar scenario. As if you saw stranger fall street when you go over and help them even even the radio no them right so it's Kinda like that. I think we still should be accountable for each other and take care of each other whether we want to be romantically involved or not right especially in this situation. Where is just you yeah? There really isn't another person's I've could even get over. Yeah and it's already mortifying I mean I've been on dates. It's where I got so drunk. I puked everywhere run by date and did this guy was so nice enough to take care of me and I got home okay. I was mortified but at the same time I was so thankful he was there to take care of me he could easily just left me at the bar. Yeah pay forward right. I do think we need to take care of each other and I hope he learned his lesson. I Dunno not to whip out his dick. When it's uncalled for I hope any man listening to this learned their lesson? I mean I truly think that every man who tries to preemptively take it out should get it stuck in. This was definitely that case. I think there's two use cases this year like the one. We're going to get technical like I think there is this situation right where it's like. This actually could have easily prevented you brought this on on where then there's other ones like the puking. If let's say you got really bad food poisoning and like you shake yourself. That's like an unfortunate situation right now. Yeah but I think like this one he had to do something to get here Right there was a conscious decision that was being made so when you saw him again was he wearing like button flies down at a table. I know like elastic waist. Yeah now I had therapy sessions afterwards over his fear. Aw didn't do an amish community. I don't know knows it allowed. Yeah what would you have done if he successfully pulled his dick out. It's time to take a quick break so we can tell you about the latest service. We have been building over here at dateable. We've created a platform to connect you with vetted experts from our network to help with everything from coaching with dating dating profile reviews and even ways to get real feedback about your dating style. The sessions typically run from thirty minutes to an hour and can all be done via skype or Google hangouts so you can be anywhere. Listeners have been sharing how worthwhile their sessions have been with comments about how easy the coaches are to talk to how they have provided a new perspective and how they have created actionable ways to inspire change to meet the coaches and book your session. Today visit dateable PODCASTS DOT com slash. Coaching Chink now. Back to the shop. What would you have done if he successfully pulled his dick out? I would've loved. I mean like I said I was planning on leaving anyway. You know in your I guess both of you from a woman's perspective like what we give unlike the kind of the ammunition that is something that he could do versus like the situation where he just did it without any kind of signs of first of all like many steps were skipped in this kissing fully close to do that coming out without me. Even I didn't like I said there was no genital touching all. I did not touch him and I think for men to feel like. That's the go ahead and I really feel like that. Should kind of be an invitation. Like a woman should actually be touching there and she can take it out herself if she one thousand Suze. I've always taken it. Yeah that's you know. I sort of dialogue would be nice as well. Communication of whatever expectations nations and the natural progression.

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Like it's hard to put into words what that is but I feel like you can like someone's giving you kind of like the verbal light that they're into into this like there's some communication happening it's not just like a case like I think a kiss is awkward on for states because like some I've been there before like on my kind kind of on the fence with someone I just met and then they go for it and I'm not like oh I don't WanNa kiss you but I'm not like I'm ready to fuck you right this minute right so I feel feel like you're kind of like starting with someone you met for two hours like go for the kiss if you feel like it's the right situation but then Kinda see what the reaction is from there. It feels like a lot to just go from kiss to like Dick out unless there's been like very back and forth between you two right absolutely. What are some takeaways? I I guess like. There's there's some right that we can take away from this other then it'd be a really funny story. We're going to do things that we're not proud of. Or that were mortified by I with strangers where people date but I think if we can all again with this mindset of taking care of each other and treating each other with respect at least that's like a way to pay it forward and it makes the situation so much better. Yeah I think it's one of those things like you do to others like you'd want someone to do to you because it's like hopefully hopefully you probably won't get your zipper stock but like something like could happen. That's like not necessarily like something that you plan for so it's kind of like good Karma to pay it forward but I also think there is a side that's kind of like a warning to people is like don't be presumptuous. Like if like dating to like it's hard to read the signals sometimes but like I don't know in this situation like it felt like things were just like moving really quickly where there weren't those signs. It's a mixed message because is I feel like there's Times that we tell people make more of the first move in like put themselves out there and then there's the people that put themselves out there a little team right so it's like how do you find that the middle. That's like your kind of like feeling. The vibe of the situation aren't going too far or not enough right. Do you have any takeaways anything that you would do differently. He so yeah I mean in hindsight would have not gone back to his place. 'cause I enjoy kissing so much it's really honestly. It's hard for me to turn down people when they tried to kiss me because for me. That's a gauge. If it's GONNA work out At all or nothing I guess for some people. It's not that important but for me it's like pretty much at the top OPTIMA list like I'm fine. Just kidding I could kiss for hours and hours A lot of men aren't capable of doing that. They just they get to this whole other level going to his is place after that short of time of knowing each other. Probably not the best idea. I think that is a good rule of thumb unless you obviously want to like hook up with the person it's probably best to steer clear of like they're on date one. Yeah can't allow things to progress a lot faster than if if you're in a public place you no. I don't think he would have done that in a public place or it would have been a whole lot more. Mortifying for I mean I think another takeaway. I guess have a first aid kit. If you're going to the first aid kit handy plays in some good scissors. Yeah I know for anyone listening again. Cut The zipper out from below. I thank you for the technical. Would that be is really. I have no idea doesn't have I do how to you. I would just say like if that happens to you just have to laugh at yourself about it right set of hiding behind like pretending. It didn't happen right when I gave that guy bloody nose to can you please rock hop on that story for anyone that missed it briefly aligned to I mean it was like our first day we didn't even hookup. We were making out. I passed out and I woke up a jolted up and gave him a bloody nose and then I passed out again. I woke up to him. Wiping hyping my own blood off my face like it's mortifying to think about because as our first day you all in his last words were like worst tender day ever but then I keep telling my story because I need to laugh at it I I can do about it so I rather have meat own mess story versus him telling the story at a at a comedy show awesomely hydrogens Gift Card and if he did that I would like to be up there like mine and telling the story with them. You gotta own your stories. Yeah absolutely do you think this would have changed if you had been intimate with him or like you'd been on three or four or like knowing him a little more and he got the Dicken Zipper. Oh I mean yeah I I think the situation would have been totally different. You know I would have stuck her own and that I would would've given him a hard time for trying to continue being physical right after right.

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Yeah I think you could be joke around a lot more. Imagine if you knew someone I like this idea of like owning it because like you've met someone for two hours they have a very small glimpse into who you are so like. Do you want to be known as the Dick Zipper Guy. I know you mentioned earlier like you could have easily turned it around by being like let's go to dinner. Let me repay you for this. There's ways could have come out differently gently in your mind. He could've come back from this. Who knows maybe it could have been brought you closer situations embarrassing moments sometimes can actually like help strengthen a relationship relationship if you deal with it in a way that like makes it more we were in this together opposed to like this like Never GonNa talk about it or gang or let me just like continued to be sexual after this habit? Just pretend like it didn't happen. Who knows I mean? Maybe he does tell the story to his friends and I mean I. I have no way of knowing that it probably doesn't I don't think he does. He would have been our show. Alright he would have been responding facebook. I got a good one but but I mean maybe it has taught him a lesson to be less presumptuous. Exactly we can control what happens to us but we can control how we deal with. Yeah happens Suez and how we react to it so again. Control your own actions along now. We're ready for question of the day. This one comes from Jim. I went on a date with an amazing girl. We had a wonderful third day until after dinner. There must have been something in the food. I ate my stomach started feeling off as we were in the Uber back to her place I was trying to hold it in until I literally couldn't anymore I had to open the door to throw up. It was mortifying she was super sweet. tweet about it and stay with me until I felt okay to get another uber home. I haven't called her sense because quite frankly I'm so worn fide and it's easier to pretend like this whole experience never happened. She was a great girl though. And I haven't felt this type of connection quite some time. What should I do? Oh Shit and lose shit his pants even worse in there before I remember like in Todd that happened to me like I got so sacred think it was the altitude and the food and it was like you. You just can't control it you'll you Jim. It's like you don't WanNa be that person but sometimes it just happens right. I absolutely think he should contact her. Ya Ah I mean that was something like we were talking about before. That was totally out of his control. I mean you get food poisoning. What can you do? Yeah if he you know feels connection and I'm sure she would really appreciate being contacted again. I think more women than we realize really actually enjoy kind of being caregivers when we can get a lot of our nature like I I enjoy it. I mean even though the situation was little like I I felt oh good helping him. Yeah I think she would appreciate being contacted absolutely. especially if you feel like. There's a connection Ryan Brian. Let this stop you because if you marry someone at some point they're going to be puking in front of you right. It's a guy. Let's say like it's happened and to me. Maybe it's happened to her like I know it's like one of those things like you're like. Oh I don't want to have this person know that I use the bathroom and like all this stuff. That's like everyone. Does this stuff right. It's like it's not sexy going to say it is but it's it's unfortunate when it happened so early on when you're trying to put your best face forward but it's life and maybe like we said earlier if you can like cut through this you can get closer faster. Yeah now you guys have an inside joke. That's great it. Brings you closer over that time you you are thirteen was your rating. Exactly can joke about it and that's adorable in some ways it. Just don't do it again but when you need to I think Jim you should reach out to her and say I really want to thank you for taking care of me. It was trying but I really enjoyed our time together up until told Ben. Let's do something safer you go eat something safer or cinder flowers or something Is it's I mean if a time has gone by like I don't know how much time if it's like weeks have gone by. He could just be honest and be like. Hey I've just been. I'm like really really embarrassed. I think that I would rather hear that from someone because she might just be questioning. Look what happened like why is he. ghosting me like what happened. I thought he was into onto it. she might not even be thinking like he's mortified and that's why he's not reaching out right. Yeah we have to her again. Definitely it's unanimous. Do it Yeah I mean Jimmy didn't get like you're stuck in his zipper. Good a lot worse. BRING SOME PEPSICO AD that Persky in another business idea.

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Yeah I I did first aid kit DOT com. That's a good one uh-huh bandmates hats on drums diaper tampons odds you never know you never know. I mean that's another one. That could be like a very unfortunate thing that happens. It's just part of who you are. There can be a lot of bodily movement things. Gosh yes yes just like learning how to like kind of make the best of the situation. Yeah yeah absolutely. It's probably the biggest take it's like. No one wants this shit to happen but if it does this whole like one way to handle this communicate it just being adult communicate. Eight story Zipper. Dick we want to hear from you. We WanNa give you a name and actual name. We want to hear your side of the story. Maybe he has a really really compelling reason for his day was trying to come out so you know think if he had like reach out after thank you so much or like sent you flowers or taking you out or did selling d think you would've gone on a date or do you think the connection was over. The zipper would have been appreciative of those actions for sure but again. I wasn't really feeling the kissing chemistry that I need to to really know that I can feel really good connection with someone that I mean. I think it's a very least. We could've walked away as friends with with an interesting story to tell like. We went through this experience various. I wish I put on my resume. You what about if you had really liked him like let's say. The chemistry was on fire from that kiss. And then this happen. What would you have done? I would still hung out with him although I would have needed needed an explanation and probably if he does like went for right away. Yeah I would have been disappointed if I was super into it and other important like four clay steps in communication were skipped which even if I was into it. Things happening that quickly years just from another good takeaway. It's like take your fucking tie like even if it's GonNa happen that night we get doesn't need to be like steamrolled in like immediately either most guys move way too fast. They just they just need to calm down. There's really an art to going slow and having good for play play. Take your time right and then you could could also see what the comfort level of someone is like if you're gradually going up opposed to just going from like the cool to hot immediately. Yeah Yeah Yeah well you know who knows where they're getting their vice from one of those not dateable podcast one of those dumb dating rules Books Folks magazine when in doubt with it out of that chapter very well all right cool anything else awesome. Yeah thank you for sharing. I'm I'm happy to share my story. And maybe we'll get another story on on one of these days baton I do. We want more dating stories. You got one. It doesn't have to be about Zipper Dick at all useful buried the like Denver dating stories. Ridiculous Shit happens on dates and all about it and we'll have a good laugh but also you know learn from it. Ed Ridiculous should happen to the best of us. So yeah. That's what makes us fun. And that's what makes us feel like we're living life. Yeah should I like these stories like I would love to hear from anyone. hassling really mortified happen to them on a date and like how did you overcome it. Yeah did you come back from it. Thank Zebra Dick Again. Third invitation to you. Watch the shows and we wanted reenactment the video blog. Yes Sir all right for again. Well we were very serious about about this. We love to have you as a guest on our show to talk about any of your ridiculous dating stories you can find us at podcast dot com all right. We're GONNA wrap this up stay Aj to keep your out of your zipper want to continue the conversation. I follow us on Instagram facebook and twitter with the handle at dateable podcast. PODCAST TAG US in any post to the HASHTAG stay dateable and trust us. We look at all those posts then head over to our website dateable PODCASTS DOT com there. You'll find all the episodes as well. As articles videos and our coaching

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